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June 9, 2013 at 9:27 pm #5609
My latest op-ed on who is warning who, plz discuss:
http://truth-out.org/speakout/item/16715-who-is-warning-whom -
June 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm #5613Larry HatlettMember
Dr. Pereira,
I am in complete agreement with what you have written and if there is anything I can do to help let me know. If you would like to read my first essay (the introduction is on the MAHB forum page) let me know: lhatlett@gmail.com -
June 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm #5615Paul EhrlichMember
As you might guess Tony, I and my closestr colleagues tend to agree with you — but when a statment is put together, you can never get exactly what you want. The MAHB is simply lending its web site to what we consider a pretty good statement — it was requested by governor Brown and he (and President Xi to whom he gave it in Chinese) are pushing it hard. It’s also been given to Kerry and likely will get to Obama. Maybe if it gets enough endorsements the topics can become more common in public discourse, and views like yours can be expressed more readily. By the way, I was involved in the UCS statement and the very similar one (same time ~19930 from 58 Academies of Science. They were greetied by the same media silence the new statement has recieved. So I urge you and your friends to endorse and persuade everyone you can to do the same. Don’t let the perfect drive out the good (or whatever that old bromide is! and fight on! Best, Paul
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June 11, 2013 at 7:33 pm #5617
Thx Larry, terrific.
At the end of the op-ed I propose an action plan.
Ttalk is fine, we need more doing, action is what counts:
1. in education2. in commerce/business/industry
3. in politics/civic society
Twenty years ago I searched for a doctorate in engineering sustainability.I could not find one in the 50 states. Then I called the U of Edinburgh,one of the oldest Us in the world, and yes, they had one covering wind, pv,hydro and geothermal. I was tempted.
Then I called Sweden, and againtwo decades ago there were two of their most prestigious universitiesoffering fully accredited PhDs in engineering sustainability covering thesame topics, Lund and KTH, their MIT. I asked ‘how much?’ and they did not understand.
So I explained what fees/tuition are. ‘Ha, those, we don’t have those. Education in Sweden is free. You only need room/living money.’ I wasn’t convinced, and explained that I had no blonde hair and was a gringo, not Swedish. Makes no difference, they said. Now I was really tempted.
Two decades later, I know of no U or college with accredited degrees in sustainability.
We have our work cut out for us, better get started, yesterday.
Plz take a look at my website http://www.ise-now.com, an LLC that I founded, President and CEO, and some of the projects I am interested in developing. Your thoughts ?
Smart menthose Toltecsfor they knowhow to maintaina dialoguewith their heart.
Toltec poem circa 500 B.C.
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June 11, 2013 at 7:57 pm #5619
Thx Paul, fabulous. Appreciate that the MAHB membership is reading these pages, are in contact with the members, and honor the membership.
The Royal Academy of Sciences also endorsed the NAS statement to no avail.
We need an effective plan, as I allude in the op-ed, in education, in politics/civic life, and in commerce/business/industry. There are some lights at the end of the tunnel, such as the Transition Cities, Sustainable Communities and other work by individuals and corporations. One recent development is organic ag going from $1B/yr to $30B/yr in just a couple of decades. Another is Germany, going from zero to 24% (some days of low use almost up to 100%) use of renewables, solar and wind, 22.5GW generating capacity and growing, and their commitment to eliminate the use of all fossil fuels and nukes. Liechtenstein also announced to go 100% solar/wind. To put it in perspective, 22.5GW is half peak power demand of California on a hot summer day with air conditioners going full blast. It is also ten San Onofre nuclear plants, now closed for good. I had the great pleasure of inviting the late Dr. Scheer, NP, Bundestag, the architect of Germany’s FIT (feed in tariff) plan to a free lecture at UCLA.
We do not have a concerted plan in our country, economic, educational, political. We have a blunt campaign of disinformation on global warming and climate change powered by billions of dollars from the oil/gas/nuclear/coal ‘industries’ taking advantage of the lack of education in the population by manipulation and lies. Your thoughts ? -
June 14, 2013 at 12:43 pm #5621Sean RooneyMember
Media thrives on conflict and won’t usually touch a story that doesn’t involve a dispute betwene one party and another. Conflict is the source of drama of course and our media is filled to overflowing the stories about the “good guys” versus “the bad guys,” whether they be cops and robbers, sheriff’s and cattle rustlers or main street versus wall street or polluters versus regulators.
Squeazing stories that deal with warnings such as those contained in the MAHB concensus statement into that paradigm is difficult to do and hence the media doesn’t even make the attempt. The conflict is too subtle and nuanced.
If we wish to garner media attention we have to formulate our message in a form that can be perceived as a conflict, which I dare say is an artful task. Yet I think it;s one that’s do-able, without being shrill or overly accusatory toward particular individuals or entities.
I’d agreee that some effort would have to be devoted to creating an approach and a form through which the mesage could be conveyed in this manner. I’m sure a few experienced and competent journalists could contribute to this. The art is in writing the press release.
On another note, we should be pleased to learn that a new set of science standards for K-12 have been released by Achieve, an educational nonprofit, which could transform American science education — assuming politicians can keep their distance.
The “Next Generation Science Standards” took two years to create, and are the result of a drafting committee of 41 members — including Nobel Prize laureates, National Research Council members, science education researchers and standards and policy experts. The voluntary plan (which does not carry the force of law and is not yet endorsed by the U.S. Department of Education) included input from 26 states, with 21 states saying they’d seriously consider adopting the standards. However, the final product includes information on global climate change and a preference for evolution over creationism — two of several concepts that could lead some Red States to reject the standards on political grounds.
To learn more, Google “New Science Standards in K-12 education.”
But this does represent a hopful turn.
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